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donothing

Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 1190 Location: North
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:12 pm Post subject: chemical castration |
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Has anyone used chemical castration for their dogs, if so which, did it work etc - I was seriously considering getting Bailey spayed in a week or so however several very good Dally friends have advised not. I have to confess I had not thought of chemical castration until it was mentioned by someone today but thought I would ask what issues, if any, other have had, the pros and cons etc:) thanks in advance
Obviously this is for Phin as he has proven he can get up to micheif despite our best efforts, and when we obviously were not looking ....... |
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Maggi

Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 2886 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Not tried chemical castration, but if you are going to do that any reason why not the real thing? Out of interest why do friends advise not getting Bailey spayed? _________________ Maggi, Caper & Poppy (Hon. Spot)- Banjoliers, Faithful Followers and Forum Wanderers. |
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Jeangenie
Joined: 01 Apr 2004 Posts: 2208 Location: Denial
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:58 am Post subject: |
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| We considered chemical castration for Piglet when we got Daisy, but the fact that for the first six weeks after implantation they become much more testosterone-fuelled, and that it needs repeating every 5 or 6 months, put us off. I'd only use it if there was a possibility of wanting to breed from him at a later date; if there isn't then I'd opt for the surgery instead. |
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Flygirl

Joined: 29 Mar 2008 Posts: 1146 Location: Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I assume that you don't want to castrate Phin because you want to go on showing him. I do know of people who use chemical castration, apparently without ill effect and assure me that it doesn't affect long term fertility, but I think I would prefer to be just to be very very careful when my girls are in season. Alternatively, do you have anyone that who would look after one of them through the critical period? _________________ Liz, Jack, Rosie, Merlin, Sally and Jazz
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Alphadal

Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 430 Location: Merseyside
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:20 am Post subject: |
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I have done lots of research on this as I was considering it for my boy. One of the main issues for me was that their testis can shrink back to the size of a puppy and have been known to withdraw back into their body, so showing whilst on this could be a no go anyway. Also there is a risk that they never return to their original size, and fertility issues could become a problem.
Unless you are considering another litter from Bailey then I would have her spayed rather than use chemical castration on your boy.
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donothing

Joined: 18 Feb 2008 Posts: 1190 Location: North
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:39 am Post subject: Chemical for Phin v spaying for Bailey |
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Thanks folks for your help - I think a lot more research etc over the next week or two.
Friends have advised not spaying just in case we decide in a couple of years to have another litter - it was nice they they liked the last litter. Currently we had no plans for a litter (note had) and told friends that Bailey would be getting spayed, all of whom have advised otherwise. Long story with me sleeping on the sofa for two weeks with Phin with Steve sleeping upstairs with Bailey (Phin would howl and I was concerned what the neighbours would say - if we lived in the country I would have let him howl - with me around he would not howl), seperate walks, seperate parts of our house for over two weeks, coming home from work and finding them still seperated however......... Still in shock, still not impressed and loads of vet checkups for Bailey....... the most annoying part is that the sofa is great for sitting on but not sleeping, espesh for every night for two weeks! Despite having done midwifery she was at least four or five weeks before the penny dropped - I had her on a diet because I thought she was having a fat phantom!
Chemical Castration was suggested for Phin as we show him - I know we can show a castrated dog as long as the KC know however being realistic he will not do well if we take that option.
There are kennels local to us however I am not a great lover of this particular kennels having previously used them for a different dog. Our only family in the area cannot take Bailey or Phin when Bailey is in season. Our Dally friends would have Phin however they have enough of their own dogs and I do not think it is fair asking them to have him as he can be a handful at times. |
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wizard
Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Does this mean she is having puppies  |
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Maggi

Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 2886 Location: Derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Well if she is having another litter then perhaps spaying after would be an option. Kennels is also an option during the season - you are not obliged to use local ones, it's worth searching for a nice one for the occasion. _________________ Maggi, Caper & Poppy (Hon. Spot)- Banjoliers, Faithful Followers and Forum Wanderers. |
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Daffydal
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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We used Tardak on Harvey, to see what effect castration would have on him, that one needs doing every month and is around £30 an injection. Not really a long term solution, but I suppose it is handy if you have a number of bitches who synchronise watches and bring each other into season.
Suprelorin is the other one, we had Marcel on that for over a year. All seemed fine until his behaviour was no different with it and he got to Phoebe. Because of his behaviour we contacted the company and what they said contradicted what was on the packaging, it says at least 6 months coverage on the documentation, we were told it could be absorbed in 4 months on bigger dogs. We had him tested and he was producing viable sperm, so the Pharmaceutical company paid for all sorts of tests on both Phoebe and Marcel as it was a challenge to the efficacy of the product.
After that, we got Marcel castrated. |
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