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HeatherA



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:08 pm    Post subject: Prospective Owner - Saying hi! Reply with quote

Hi guys!

Next year I'll be getting a dog. I've spent about a month looking at different breeds and from the sounds of it (I've read loads of posts on here and elsewhere) a Dalmatian will suit me perfectly.

I'm just hoping to chat with some of you, read bits and pieces so I'm more prepared when next summer arrives and I'm ready for a puppy!

I've never owned a dog myself but my sister has two big Leonbergers so I know how much work they are and I've looked after them for weeks at a time so I'm quite happy knowing I can handle the walking, the feeding, the walking, the hoovering, the walking, the playing and a bit more of the walking Wink

I've budgeted for food (Looks like it averages about 60 a month, sound about right?), pet insurance, training classes and obviously fun things, too so I'll be totally able to handle that side, as well.

It has to be next summer at the earliest because I have a couple of holidays booked and I'll be moving home in the new year... I don't want to be bringing that kind of stress on a new puppy.

Hope to get to know some of you better!

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I'm also quite a new member of this club. I have a black spotted Dalmatian bitch called Poppy she will be 3yrs in September. I got Poppy from the Dalmatian Welfare when she was 9months

I thought I would tell you our daily routine, to give you some idea of what we enjoy together. The day starts at 7am when I get Poppy up feed and then go for a 3mile walk at approx 7.30am we have quite a few different walks some on the canal some through woods best of all she likes the one that goes through the National Trust land where she can run and run over the fields and over the stream also at the beach running after the ball and playing with her friends We get home around 9am I shower her if needed and brush her then she is ready for a sleep !!!!! she usually wakes around 12pm this is the time we do some training, she is then ready for her lunch at 1pm. I take her out again for another walk at 3pm where we complete approx 3miles come back and give her the evening meal.

She then sleeps so do I

Since I have had this spotty dali I have lost around 3 stone, which can't be bad.

Kind regards,

Pauline & Poppy
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Spotalot



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello and welcome

I have been owned by spotties for the last 18 years and can't imagine life without at least 1, which is currently where we are at, at the moment.
Our girl Daisy is 4 tomorrow and our boy Dylan passed just over a year ago.

They are a wonderful, happy breed.
High energy, stubborn, intelligent, loyal, great fun, and if they could they would go everywhere with you.

There is a puppy list to download in the owners section at the top of the page.
Make sure the breeder has done all the relevant health tests on the parents and that you see tge evidence.
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Spotalot



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello and welcome

I have been owned by spotties for the last 18 years and can't imagine life without at least 1, which is currently where we are at, at the moment.
Our girl Daisy is 4 tomorrow and our boy Dylan passed just over a year ago.

They are a wonderful, happy breed.
High energy, stubborn, intelligent, loyal, great fun, and if they could they would go everywhere with you.

There is a puppy list to download in the owners section at the top of the page.
Make sure the breeder has done all the relevant health tests on the parents and that you see tge evidence.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello and welcome to the forum! Smile

Just be warned - dallies take over your life!! And there's no better way to have your life taken over Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's true, dalmatians make wonderful members of the family, but not such great pets!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh thanks everyone!

You're all super welcoming!

PAB - That was a really great insight! Thanks! I'm pretty reassured that it's not too far off what I was imagining.

It'll be the first dog of my very very own so I'm a little curious about a few general things. Hopefully you guys don't mind me picking your brains Smile

Dog or bitch? From what I've read boys tend to be more stubborn but more affectionate... Is that accurate? If so, which is better? I'm really excited to do lots of training but does the gender of the dog make a massive amount of difference if I'm planning at least 20-30 minutes of solid focussed training every day?

And is it true that training in the house can be as stimulating as a walk? I'm a little unsure about how to help the puppy get rid of its excess energy while still going with the 10minutes walking per month of age for bone development. Does engaging its brain help as much as a walk? If not how do you wear it out when it's only 6 months old and can only walk for about an hour? Am I putting too much weight on the puppy walking rule?

I also read you shouldn't introduce a puppy to other dogs until after its second vaccinations at 10 weeks but I'd like to get that started straight away. The dogs in my circle of friends are all vaccinated and the training/socialisation puppy classes I've got in mind are run by my local vet so I think it's a fair assumption they're all up to date. Would that be OK or should I just introduce it to people until its second jabs?

Hmm... What else can I ask you all while you're being so awesome?!

What kind of treats can you use with Dalmatians? Obviously any and all training I'm going to do is reward based and while I'll try and mix it up with toys and playtime I know most dogs are ruled by their stomachs! I've read you need to be pretty careful with the amount of purines so I'm assuming really high protein stuff isn't appropriate. What sort of things do you guys use?

Is there anything really common they mustn't have? Rawhide is 80% protein but I know that not all protein is purines so is that kinda thing ok?

I know I'm asking a lot considering I can't even look at litters until next spring but I'm just trying to make sure I don't just rush into it with OMG PUPPY!... If I get as much knowledge as I can now then I can devote as much time to the puppy instead of research Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't apologise for asking questions.

No one on here will mind, in fact I'm sure they will be pleased that you are doing your research first.

Dog or bitch is personal choice really, obviously most girls are smaller, the boys can turn out very muscular and strong.
I've had both and love both equally, but I went for a girl first and was glad I did as 2 years later we got a male and the girl was so good, treating him like her own pup and all her good habits....lol
I found them all affectionate, others may have different opinions.
Girl dogs in general have nothing to prove with other dogs and you gend to get less of the
"Squaring up" from other dogs.

Yes training does tire the puppy as much as excersise but you would need to keep the sessions short and sweet....5-10 minutes at a time to stop him/ her from getting bored,
and you must make it fun.


Treats I use tend to be tiny cubes of cheese or cooked chicken/ sausages.

I don't like raw hide chews, I find they upset tummies and they MUST be supervised if given as once they go soft and gooey the pup can swallow and block his wind pipe.

Stag bars are expensive but last a very long time and are much safer.

I socialise my puppies with vaccinated freinds dogs after the first lot of shots.
But in my own or their gardens and I would think a puupy session arranged by vets would be great.

Your garden will need to be secure and research the list of poisonous plants online as its surprisingly long.

You will either need to invest in a large indoor crate or plan a safe area where the puppy can be left indoors to be kept safe when you leave him and protect your furniture.

If you post the first part of your postcode their maybe on here near enough that would let you meet their adult dogs.

Research training classes and go along and watch to get an idea of which one would suit you.
Hope this helps x
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HeatherA



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah that's some awesome advice! Thank you!

I did consider going to the Dalmatian show in my area to meet some adults but it falls while I'm away next month!

That's a pretty good idea. I'm on the border between Norfolk and Suffolk, about equal distance between Ipswich and Norwich if anyone's close to enough to let me meet their friends!

So the rule with training is pretty similar to the walking? Little amounts at first and slowly increase as s/he gets older and more experienced?

My other question is that in all my research nobody has mentioned that they like to chase small animals much. Is that accurate? My sister has a cat and a friend of mine has guinea pigs. Assuming I introduce them all to the dog slowly and early in its life, is it likely to chase them at all?

My sister's brother-in-law has a whippet that no matter how many times they've met, he always chases the cat because he's got such a high prey drive. He always stops when he's called but the impulse is always there. It's not something I've ever seen mentioned in Dalmatians and they were never used as hunting animals so I'm guessing (hoping) it's not a massively dominant trait?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would imagine it depends on the dog to a degree but Monty has always hunted. I've trained him to stop with a firm 'No' over the years but though he is one of the nicest natured animals I have ever met I would not trust him with a furry animal that would fit in his mouth, especially not one that's likely to attempt to run.

Slow supervised introduction is possibly a way to go but I would urge eternal vigilance, just in case, more with the guinea pigs than the cats who tend to be wily enough to escape and vicious when cornered. Monty has never attempted to hunt a cat, bark one to death yes, but hunt no.

I'm sure there are others on here with more experienced advice however, Monty is the only dalmatian I have had.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 2 spotties a male and female, my female is extremely prey driven and no matter what I do she wont be dissuaded, my boy is interested in rabbits but more because of Kibby going into hunt mode when she sees them, he wants to know what it is but the only thing I have seen him chase was a squirrel. As the squirrel disappeared up a tree sharpish he hasnt bothered since, he would rather chase a ball.

I think choosing a sex goes out the window when the puppy chooses you Very Happy I went to get a female and came away with a boy. My boy is more me and my girl more my husband. I honestly do think the pup chooses you though Rolling Eyes

As for exercising I used 5 minutes per month on lead walking but free running as much as they wanted (within reason).

I have used antlers for long term chews we still have one from when he was 8 months old and he is 3 in August. For treats I have used all sorts depending on what I am doing I kept a high value one for recall training and both will turn on a dime when whistled (98% of the time) I have used cheese, sausage, liver cake (frowned on due to the purine levels in offal but I make it myself so know how much is in it), gravy bones, carrot.

Enjoy every minute of puppyhood they grow too fast
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, welcome and congratulations on doing your research. I've been owned by assorted spotty folk for the last 35 years and I wouldn't have anything else! However dalmatians are extremely intelligent so don't always make the most obedient pets as they like to think for themselves.

There's no real difference between boys and girls except that the boys can be a lot bigger and stronger, something to consider if you are not very big yourself. Whatever sex you shoose gthe important thing is to start as you mean to go on. If it is not cute in a large 30+ kg dog then don't let your puppy do it! Firm but kind is the way to go and training from day one to forever.

As for hunting - depends on the dog. My current boy doesn't chase anything and is very good with small animals. My last girl was a SERIOUS hunter and I wouldn't have let her near anything small and furry! I personally wouldn't trust any dog with a guinea pig - too much temptation - but most of mine have lived with cats and again the current boy is great with cats even though we don't have one at the moment. He's also fine with our birds.

I do socialise pups with friends dogs after the first jabs and I also carry them out a lot so that they see the world (they do get pretty heavy after 8 weeks though!)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum and congrats.

The thng to remember is that they are highly intelligent individuals, that will usually do as you want them to, if there is something in it for them Smile

Having them socialise early on with other dogs is I believe a must no matter the breed.

Ballach, is excellent with small animals, he knows not to try anything with cats, he grew up loving next to cute domestic ducks.

However, he is really keen on rabbits, mainly as they run, rather than a good source.

As mentioned though, trusting any dog with small cute things is taking a risk.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man... I am SO pleased I joined this forum! You guys are awesome!

I really really plan on getting the training going from day 1. I've looked after my sister's leonberger puppy (8months old) and he's about 30kg so I'm ALL too aware of how important it is to lay the foundations! lol

So it sounds like the prey is a big depends on the dog thing. Her guinea pigs live indoors so the dog would never be unattended with them and they'd never be out their cage when we were over there. From the sounds of it, it's manageable and not a complete disaster like it would be with some other breeds. I'm happy with that. It's a manageable risk, like introducing it to house cats.

What's the one thing you wish you knew about Dalmatians before you got your first?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing I wish i knew was that they were going to COMPLETELY take over my life! Mind you I still would have had them.

Other dogs are very nice, but they are just dogs. Dalmatians are like Marmite I think - love them or hate them. If you love them they do take you over and are VERY addictive. I've just spent my entire weekend helping for the Dalmatian Welfare Fun Day. It wasn't even on my doorstep - just 120 miles away. It was Caper's birthday and we had to celebrate it - i know people with other breeds who don't even know when their dog's birthday is.

The other thing I now know is that the more time you spend training the more rewarding your dalmatian is. They are SO clever and, especially when young, so keen to learn. The effort you put in comes back in spades.

The last thing for every puppy to know is that ALL dalmatians are baby crocodiles for a while. It does stop and they do get better!
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